An old man is angry, and Jared is sad

You know who doesn’t like Marvel movies? Old white guys who were popular in the 80’s. Does it matter that Martin Scorsese and Francis Ford Coppola don’t like the Marvel films? Not even a little bit. But journalists seem to be loving the easy story of “person not in target audience doesn’t care for ____”. 

I saw a tweet mentioning that they haven’t criticised those who created the blockbuster genre, probably because they’re mates with Steven Spielberg and George Lucas. They’re older gentlemen being asked about something they’re not attached to in the way I am, but I am 50 years their junior. Times change, old men don’t. I have already written about Scorsese’s comments, and as much as you must respect both him and Coppola for their work, you don’t have to agree with their opinion, or anyone else’s.

Coppola’s comments have reminded me of a quote from Grandpa Simpson. “I used to be with it, then they changed what it was, and now what’s it is weird and scary to me”. It’s odd how much that applies here, the guys who made the Mobsters movies everyone watched in the 80’s don’t like the new hot thang in the 2010’s.

It isn’t just old white guys complaining though, there is also a younger, baby faced white guy complaining. Now I am biased, I enjoy 30 Seconds to Mars and Jared Leto was a man crush for a bit. As much as it is painful to say this, it appears he’s been a bit of a prick. If the stories are true, he threw a massive tantrum upon hearing the news that Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker film was given the green light. The story is he called his agents and demanded they contact Warner Bros and try to get the film cancelled.

Of course, it didn’t work, and someone just had to pick up all his toys and put them back in his pram. He’s an actor, who went deep into a character that unfortunately didn’t work for audiences. Warner Bros were apparently unhappy with his conduct on set, with him actively trying to freak out his co-stars. I understand some actors feel compelled to be super “method” about every role, but I am not sure we’ve ever seen an actor go this deep in a role that nobody really enjoyed.

As I mentioned, I like Jared Leto as a performer, and it’s well documented that I love the Joker character, what Leto has done here is confuse that character for his own private property. He was hired to play the Joker, he did so. Now someone else is playing the same character in a film completely disconnected from the DC universe as far as we know. If Leto had been a hit, and everyone had loved Suicide Squad and his role in it was lauded as another great Joker, the likelihood is we would never have seen Joaquin Phoenix put on the clown make up.

It didn’t work, we probably won’t see him as the tattooed joker again and frankly Jared Leto needs to grow up and get over it. He’s a man in his 40’s acting like a petulant child because he was told it was his turn and he didn’t have enough fun on his turn and now it’s someone else’s turn, and Jared isn’t happy about it.

If all the rumours are false, all is forgiven and a massive F you will go out to the journalists who reported it as fact. I have a feeling it isn’t false and its sort of ruined Jared Leto for me. Him thinking he has any ownership over a character that has been around longer than he has make’s him seem like a twat. I will still watch his films, and when I am next driving around with my friend Emma and she finally decides to listen to more than the first 3 seconds of a song, I will sing along to every word of “Attack” by 30 Seconds to Mars as if he isn’t a man child.

Hopefully tomorrow I have something more uplifting to write about! Well I know I will. There will be a new Star Wars trailer. Here’s hoping for more hints of Big Papa Palpatine.

‘Til Tomorrow.

ChAzJS

Martin Scorsese’s Theme Park Ride

“Marvel films are not cinema” says Martin Scorsese. A director who is releasing his newest film on streaming services with a limited release in cinema’s, confusing what his actual definition of cinema is. Martin Scorsese has earned the right to say whatever he wants in Hollywood, and it appears he has a bee in his bonnet about the superhero movie craze.

In a way, I understand what he means. In particular, the Marvel Cinematic (awkward) Universe is unlike anything we have ever seen in cinema’s before. Scorsese didn’t mean this, but it’s closer to a long running TV show with episodes released every 4-6 months over the last 11 years. It’s been an incredible ride; one I have very much enjoyed, and I feel lucky to have experienced it happen.

What I think Scorsese was trying to get at is that he doesn’t feel like the films are narrative storytelling with complex characters like the films he enjoys watching and making. I do not agree per say, but this is just a result of the nature of films, and there is no law that says every film must be for everyone. To me, the characters have developed so much over the course of their movies that they’re extremely complex and the newer characters are on the same journey.

I rate movies on this site, a process I find difficult because of the intangible nature of what divides a seven from an eight out of ten. I grade it based on a gut feeling at the time of writing. I have given some high marks to a few Marvel films, but at the same time I would not argue Avengers Endgame is a rival for Martin Scorsese’s 3-hour long Mob drama The Irishman. They’re two different genres of film, and that diversity is one of the things I love about films.

Clearly Scorsese does not enjoy the diversity of films, and his comment referring to movie theatres becoming more like Theme Parks is odd to me. Not because I disagree, but because that’s what they have always been. When you walk around a theme park, every ride is a little different from the last, but they’re all rides. They all have some of the same elements, but they all do things a little differently. Films are the exact same in that sense. Every film poster you walk past in a movie theatre is a different ride. It might be an emotional romantic comedy roller coaster or a gut-wrenching horror log flume.

Marvel Films are the Teacups or the Ferris Wheel. They’re always around, every theme park has one throughout most of the year and in general, people really enjoy them, and they know what they’re getting. Occasionally Marvel give you Teacups on a Ferris wheel, like Endgame, but it all still fits.

Scorsese’s films are like the haunted houses with real actors in them. They’re slower walks that will make you think about different things whilst still giving you the same adrenaline rush, just in a different way. It’s still a part of the same theme park though. Scorsese doesn’t enjoy them, and that is fine. If you do, more power to you and nobody can take that enjoyment away.

One thing I think Scorsese has not realised, is that he’s creating more hype for Marvel films than he is his own movie. I haven’t seen a quote from him about The Irishman, and that should be the film he is talking about. Disney has already earned billions this year and they still have a Star Wars film to come, they do not need the free advertising but I am sure they’re grateful for Martin Scorsese reminding everyone that Marvel films are a thing, slap bang in the middle of the biggest gap between films Marvel has had for years.

I haven’t dived into the reaction online, I am sure it’s the usual mix of diehard fans cursing Scorsese, a couple of people saying he’s right and Marvel sucks, and then a few reasonable people reacting sensibly. If you feel wronged by Scorsese’s comments, get over it. When you break it down, it’s a man who hasn’t seen a lot of these films, commenting on why he feels they’re not for him. Perhaps he would enjoy them if he watched all of them, but he hasn’t, and he’s told us why he won’t be any time soon.

I still love Martin Scorsese’s films, and I love Marvel films, and most of all I am grateful that there is room for both in the theme park.

‘Til tomorrow

ChAzJS